Thai Amulet Forum
General => Chat => Topic started by: Kimleng777 on January 02, 2024, 10:24:25 pm
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Mods to stay neutral
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sales thread might be more chatty :D
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Staying silent to observe.
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What’s wrong with speaking the truth? If someone twists the facts, shouldn’t we step in and set things straight?
I won’t waste my time here anymore. Going to find my master and ask if Prai amulets can be worn together with Taowessuan—the answer might surprise me.
Avijja.
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What’s wrong with speaking the truth? If someone twists the facts, shouldn’t we step in and set things straight?
I won’t waste my time here anymore. Going to find my master and ask if Prai amulets can be worn together with Taowessuan—the answer might surprise me.
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We are all adults and we know how things work in the real world.
Don’t be naive, would you buy something without proper verification?
What’s so difficult about contacting Nop, Fong Ng, or Champ to verify Aj Pleng amulets? I suppose they are among the most qualified people.
@Valen, This forum is so boring—it seems like people here just want to play Tai Chi and act like nice people.
Lol! Nice one, but you seem to be too gullible to think at SMK or even Nop will not play this game to their benefits. Seems like you are very very new to the circle. Never mind, my statement to you will be the same; "Is that it".....
FYI, I know a little of everything. Hence you probably don't want to step on the wrong side of me too.
Oh yes, if you happen to know Sammy, you can ask him if he happen to know me, just say Z' friend.
P.S: Don't do things to make yourself lose face. Face is "given" as a respect, please don't act like a child. Grow up, huh?
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We are all adults and we know how things work in the real world.
Don’t be naive, would you buy something without proper verification?
What’s so difficult about contacting Nop, Fong Ng, or Champ to verify Aj Pleng amulets? I suppose they are among the most qualified people.
@Valen, This forum is so boring—it seems like people here just want to play Tai Chi and act like nice people.
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Aiyo, someone mentioned that Samran is not a direct lineage of Pu Pleng—so sad
Hurry up and refute this person! Tell him off for not speaking in good faith
@Tamjiak, actually @DarkMind has messaged me privately. It seems either he really has been duped, or he did not do enough research which he somehow didn't realized yet, and he is still insistent the person who recommended the items to him, is a trustworthy source. That's to his belief, so no need to continue the topic. I hope this ends here, case closed. Thanks.
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Aiyo, someone mentioned that Samran is not a direct lineage of Pu Pleng—so sad
Hurry up and refute this person! Tell him off for not speaking in good faith
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Pidta kraduk pee Lolol
@Tamjiak bro, don't jee siao la. Give people a chance to learn. Anyway, like I say, once anything that requires judgement of anything of a human form, it's possible to make mistakes.
@DarkMind bro, maybe you have not went into enough research yet, I won't refute anything herein, nor say anything to confirm any pim or any mould to be true/fake. It is not my intention to confuse nor complicate this matter further. I am definitely not siding anyone, not you nor @Tamjiak.
SaiTrong - refers to persons who have direct access to the master/lineage. To be honest, Ajarn Samran is not a direct lineage student under Phu Pleng, that's according to the written biography and info. From what I know, it is as such, no offence @DarkMind.
To be honest, I have my fair share of stories when people tell me they are collectors of Ajarn Pleng, but when they show their collection or when I ask them the meat, the person comes back and ask what is neua hod. No point to carry forward any argument on this between you and @Tamjiak.
I just have one statement, if want to wear, wear the real puttamongkhon, no need to really dwell into seeking amulets that are well over own's budget. Ajarn Koon (direct linage under Phu Pleng) already say, wear the real thing, better than wearing fakes. Research, analyse then understand both master and the works.
By the way, I only know a little bit of Thai, I only know a little bit of Phu Pleng stuffs, my collections are nothing worth mentioning. So no need to ask me to post anything also. But if want me to show that I can directly contact Ajarn Koon, as I somehow am close to him and I think I am the only Singaporean that he acknowledges to be within his circle of luksits and acquaintances. I am happy to provide a screenshot a direct call with timestamp. That's his own statement, and I do not need to put words into Ajarn Koon's mouth.
I just hope for the unnecessary heated exchange of conversation to stop here. As mentioned, I am not stepping in as moderator to berate or say anyone, because I myself am still learning.
Last but not least, let the heated exchange of conversation end here. Cool down, @Tamjiak & @DarkMind.
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I bet you must have missed me a lot
Lp Tim infamous KP 251x Lolol
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haha..long time no drama
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Pidta kraduk pee Lolol
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Who believes these amulets are blessed by Aj Pleng lol
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I really don't want to talk to you or argue with you. You don't speak with good faith and your intentions are not in good faith.
I do wish you goodwill and may you be on the straight path someday. 🙏
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Kmt Lolol
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Who believes these amulets are blessed by Aj Pleng lol
Who wants to drink tea lolol
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Is this the best you can do?
Keep repeating the same sentence Lol
It looks like you're avoiding all my questions
Stop hiding and speak up
The quality of your words is abysmal and you do not speak in good faith. I want nothing to do with you and I don't wish to talk to you.
(I am not hiding. I just don't want to have anything to do with you)
Update: I have checked, Ac Samran did learn wicha from Ac Pleng, so he is a disciple of Ac Pleng by that measure.
I'm not really sure what you mean by direct lineage. Because that seems to indicate that Ac Samran can rightly claim to be a disciple of Ac Pleng (since Ac Samran did learn wicha from Ac Pleng). By direct lineage, do you mean did Ac Pleng pass down the leadership of his lineage to Ac Samran? I do not believe Ac Pleng passed down the leadership of his lineage to Ac Samran. Did Ac Pleng teach Ac Samran everything he knew? I don't know.
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Is this the best you can do?
Keep repeating the same sentence Lol
It looks like you're avoiding all my questions
Stop hiding and speak up
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Of course, you don’t want anything to do with me because you can’t even answer one of my simple questions.
Don’t come here talking about faith or teachings when someone is selling questionable amulets and claiming integrity
The more I see this Thai dealer's amulets, the more I just want to laugh lololol
https://www.facebook.com/pongtheb?mibextid=ZbWKwL
You are not speaking the truth. I don't want to talk to you because you don’t speak in good faith. I don't want to have anything to do with you for the same reason.
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Of course, you don’t want anything to do with me because you can’t even answer one of my simple questions.
Don’t come here talking about faith or teachings when someone is selling questionable amulets and claiming integrity
The more I see this Thai dealer's amulets, the more I just want to laugh lololol
https://www.facebook.com/pongtheb?mibextid=ZbWKwL
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Aiyo, my questions are so simple yet you have trouble comprehending them?
You don’t want to reply because you don’t have an answer.
Aren’t you tired of constantly claiming that your so-called AJ Pleng sources are reliable? Yet, you’ve never provided a shred of evidence—not even a single photo from your so-called vast collection. Lol
Actually I know your so-called reliable source is a Thai dealer who sold unusual amulets, ones that even SaiTongs and amulet dealers admit they can't compete with lolol
https://www.facebook.com/pongtheb?mibextid=ZbWKwL
As one member mentioned, a few members know Aj Pleng stuff so post your Aj Pleng collection here. Don’t forget to share your little tea cups blessed by the master.
@Valen Can you ask this AJ Pleng experts to post photos so newbies like me can learn
You don't comprehend what I wrote. I want nothing to do with you, for the reason I have mentioned. I may explain only to others who talk to me in good faith.
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Aiyo, my questions are so simple yet you have trouble comprehending them?
You don’t want to reply because you don’t have an answer.
Aren’t you tired of constantly claiming that your so-called AJ Pleng sources are reliable? Yet, you’ve never provided a shred of evidence—not even a single photo from your so-called vast collection. Lol
Actually I know your so-called reliable source is a Thai dealer who sold unusual amulets, ones that even SaiTongs and amulet dealers admit they can't compete with lolol
https://www.facebook.com/pongtheb?mibextid=ZbWKwL
As one member mentioned, a few members know Aj Pleng stuff so post your Aj Pleng collection here. Don’t forget to share your little tea cups blessed by the master.
@Valen Can you ask this AJ Pleng experts to post photos so newbies like me can learn
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Please excuse me but from your earlier response, I don't want to have anything to do with you. I would like to cease all communication with you.
My sources are reliable and unlike some Thai dealers who want to make supernormal profits from selling Ac Pleng's amulets, I generally did not mark up a lot.
When Ac Pleng first released these amulets, they were not sold at sky high prices. I managed to source these amulets from, say, Ac Pleng's disciples who were willing to let go his amulets at reasonable prices, so I don't need to mark them up by a lot. I understand some dealers may sell an Ac Pleng amulet they got for less than S$100 for thousands of Singapore dollars.
I really would like to cease all communication with you because you do not speak in good faith. So, for those of you reading this, if I choose not to talk to him anymore or answer his questions, it is not because I am avoiding the topic, but rather I do not want anything to do with those who do not speak in good faith. If you know me from the old forums or if you know me personally, you can message me and I may clarify the matter with you. But I will like not to respond to someone who does not speak in good faith, like Tamjiak.
Sorry for the double post admin. Admin, please feel free to delete this post.
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@DarkMind
Don't change the topic, Kong wu Kong bo and avoid answering these questions:
1. Do you understand and speak fluent Thai?
2. Who is Samran? Did you meet him personally in Thailand, and did he show you any legitimate evidence that he is Aj Pleng's disciple? Or did you just hear this story from your so-called Thai dealer?
3. Have you ever sold or verified your so-called real amulets with Aj Pleng SaiTong, judges - Nop, Fong Ng, Champ, or any reputable dealers in Singapore or Thailand?
4. Post photos of your Aj Pleng amulets over here and ask those experts to verify them.
For those curious about who this person is, go to Carousell and look for the seller offering Aj Pleng amulets at prices far below the market rate.
Anyone familiar with the KP 59 Ton 2541 knows its selling price is around 3-4K, depending on the condition. Yet, this person is selling it for a few hundreds dollars lolol
Teacups blessed by Aj Pleng, anyone lol
@Valen, I will happily leave this forum if this person can prove me wrong
Please excuse me but from your earlier response, I don't want to have anything to do with you. I would like to cease all communication with you.
My sources are reliable and unlike some Thai dealers who want to make supernormal profits from selling Ac Pleng's amulets, I generally did not mark up a lot.
When Ac Pleng first released these amulets, they were not sold at sky high prices. I managed to source these amulets from, say, Ac Pleng's disciples who were willing to let go his amulets at reasonable prices, so I don't need to mark them up by a lot. I understand some dealers may sell an Ac Pleng amulet they got for less than S$100 for thousands of Singapore dollars.
I really would like to cease all communication with you because you do not speak in good faith. So, for those of you reading this, if I choose not to talk to him anymore or answer his questions, it is not because I am avoiding the topic, but rather I do not want anything to do with those who do not speak in good faith. If you know me from the old forums or if you know me personally, you can message me and I may clarify the matter with you. But I will like not to respond anymore to someone who does not speak in good faith, like Tamjiak.
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@Darkmind
Don't change the topic, Kong wu Kong bo and avoid answering these questions:
1. Do you understand and speak fluent Thai?
2. Who is Samran? Did you meet him personally in Thailand, and did he show you any legitimate evidence that he is Aj Pleng's disciple? Or did you just hear this story from your so-called Thai dealer?
3. Have you ever sold or verified your so-called real amulets with Aj Pleng SaiTong, judges - Nop, Fong Ng, Champ, or any reputable dealers in Singapore or Thailand?
4. Post photos of your Aj Pleng amulets over here and ask those experts to verify them.
For those curious about who this person is, go to Carousell and look for the seller offering Aj Pleng amulets at prices far below the market rate.
Anyone familiar with the KP 59 Ton 2541 knows its selling price is around 3-4K, depending on the condition. Yet, this person is selling it for a few hundreds dollars lolol
Teacups blessed by Aj Pleng, anyone lol
@Valen, I will happily leave this forum if this person can prove me wrong
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Thank you for your comment. You are wise not to depend on SMK or other so called authority for authentication of Ac Pleng's amulets. 🙏
@DarkMind, I am just following after years of research which I finally managed to know a little bit. I don't believe in human eyes to be accurate as of 100% accurate, they are still human and human makes mistakes. And lol, I do know sufficiently enough to identify most of Ajarn Pleng items (and I don't intend to challenge anybody at that too), but I think I am okay to identify what were the items consecrated by Ajarn Pleng. I think years ago, I put a verbal statement before, Ajarn Pleng did consecrated Ngans. Lol, and it was refuted....after that it was made known Ajarn Pleng did consecrated Ngans ;)
Anyway, chill for bros herein. Have a good night rest ahead.
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@Tamjiak, @DarkMind, cool it. It's a discussion forum here that we are sharing the daily wears, not to refute unnecessary on things that can lead to a dispute.
@Tamjiak, I honestly believe there are certain moulds that you and I probably wouldn't know of. Firstly, I would not deny anything without research first. To be honest, I have my relevant few pieces of Ajarn Pleng's stuffs as well, and I am still a follower. I don't actually depend on SMK or whatever, to determine my pieces. And I have my circle of friends who knows what I probably know in Ajarn Pleng stuffs and they are in this group as well. To be honest, I am not just into Ajarn Pleng, but also into his lineage and study them as well. Frankly speaking, I think no need to go so far out to carry out the statement of trying to sell to where or who. Probably analyze and research is the best we can do, and learn with open-mind.
@DarkMind, I know you have a good collection. Good for you. I am stepping in, not as a moderator to determine who is right or wrong. But I think both sides can tone down a bit, step back a bit, all of us can learn from each other about each other's stuffs and discuss the learning/the info together. This is meant as a discussion forum, so we do need first to take things with a pinch of salt and analyse the information if it's logical or something that you/we might have heard somewhere/somehow.
To be honest, the amulet is an emblem of image to Lord Buddha and religious artefacts, aka the Puttamongkhon. We remember the boon and baramee of Lord Buddha, hence we are now entitled to be near it, having an image of it across our neck and near to our heart. So no need to be so "heated", because that defeats the purpose of "goodness". Anger does nothing good, not for anyone, you, him, she, me.
I would suggest both of you to calm down. Just have a peaceful discussion, I am sure everyone will learn something if it's an open and fruitful discussion.
Cool down once again, I would ask both of you. Have a good night rest, then reflect again tomorrow if it bothers you in any stage or any way. Cheers - Syzthesis.
Thank you for your comment. You are wise not to depend on SMK or other so called authority for authentication of Ac Pleng's amulets. 🙏
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Shut your mouth if you don’t know anything about the master and stop twisting the story.
Who is Samran? Anyone can claim to be Aj Pleng’s disciples but can they prove it by showing a tamlar or any legitimate evidence?
If your so-called amulets are real, try selling them at Pantip or through a SG Aj Pleng dealer, MKC or Roy
Or better still, post your amulets on the Aj Pleng FB forum and have the SaiTong or judges verify them
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15hnnUGMNC/
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18QVimy5gV/
@Tamjiak, @DarkMind, cool it. It's a discussion forum here that we are sharing the daily wears, not to refute unnecessary on things that can lead to a dispute.
@Tamjiak, I honestly believe there are certain moulds that you and I probably wouldn't know of. Firstly, I would not deny anything without research first. To be honest, I have my relevant few pieces of Ajarn Pleng's stuffs as well, and I am still a follower. I don't actually depend on SMK or whatever, to determine my pieces. And I have my circle of friends who knows what I probably know in Ajarn Pleng stuffs and they are in this group as well. To be honest, I am not just into Ajarn Pleng, but also into his lineage and study them as well. Frankly speaking, I think no need to go so far out to carry out the statement of trying to sell to where or who. Probably analyze and research is the best we can do, and learn with open-mind.
@DarkMind, I know you have a good collection. Good for you. I am stepping in, not as a moderator to determine who is right or wrong. But I think both sides can tone down a bit, step back a bit, all of us can learn from each other about each other's stuffs and discuss the learning/the info together. This is meant as a discussion forum, so we do need first to take things with a pinch of salt and analyse the information if it's logical or something that you/we might have heard somewhere/somehow.
To be honest, the amulet is an emblem of image to Lord Buddha and religious artefacts, aka the Puttamongkhon. We remember the boon and baramee of Lord Buddha, hence we are now entitled to be near it, having an image of it across our neck and near to our heart. So no need to be so "heated", because that defeats the purpose of "goodness". Anger does nothing good, not for anyone, you, him, she, me.
I would suggest both of you to calm down. Just have a peaceful discussion, I am sure everyone will learn something if it's an open and fruitful discussion.
Cool down once again, I would ask both of you. Have a good night rest, then reflect again tomorrow if it bothers you in any stage or any way. Cheers - Syzthesis.
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Shut your mouth if you don’t know anything about the master and stop twisting the story.
Who is Samran? Anyone can claim to be Aj Pleng’s disciples but can they prove it by showing a tamlar or any legitimate evidence?
If your so-called amulets are real, try selling them at Pantip or through a SG Aj Pleng dealer, MKC or Roy
Or better still, post your amulets on the Aj Pleng FB forum and have the SaiTong or judges verify them
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15hnnUGMNC/
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18QVimy5gV/
Your words are rude and uncalled for. Such words have no place in a civil discussion. These words speak volumes about your unwholesome character. Your mental defilements are strong.
You are very wrong in your false accusations. Your unseemingly conduct has already revealed your untrustworthy character.
(As I speak truly,as in, I don't knowingly tell lies,I don't have to keep quiet)
Moderator, please step in.
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Shut your mouth if you don’t know anything about the master and stop twisting the story.
Who is Samran? Anyone can claim to be Aj Pleng’s disciples but can they prove it by showing a tamlar or any legitimate evidence?
If your so-called amulets are real, try selling them at Pantip or through a SG Aj Pleng dealer, MKC or Roy
Or better still, post your amulets on the Aj Pleng FB forum and have the SaiTong or judges verify them
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15hnnUGMNC/
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18QVimy5gV/
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Keep Aj Pleng amulets for many years and this is the first time I heard of AJ Pleng KP 59-ton testing mould lol
No offence intended. Do bear in mind that although this is the first time you heard of it, it doesn't mean it isn't true.
The order of creation is like this:
- In Buddhist year 2539, Ac Pleng spent time collecting the raw materials to make Khun Paen amulets.
- In Buddhist year 2540, Ac Pleng hand pumped and consecrated the testing mould Khun Paen amulets.
- In Buddhist year 2541, Ac Pleng hand pumped and consecrated the "Namlerk" Khun Paen amulets. In this year, he also hand pumped and consecrated the standard mould Khun Paen amulets.
- The factory mould was created by the factory after Buddhist year 2541, when Ac Pleng outsourced the creation to the factory. For this mould, Ac Pleng did not have enough ingredients for the Khun Paen amulets, so the factory added most of its own ingredients.
My Ac Pleng Khun Paen 59 Ton testing mould was taken from Ac Samran, a living disciple of Ac Pleng. Ac Samran had taken it from Ac Pleng.
For those who want to mislead others and spread false information about Ac Pleng, now is still not a good time because those who know the truth, such as Ac Samran, are still alive and can verify the testing mould Khun Paen is indeed from Ac Pleng.
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LP Phang ;D
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Wearing LP Pae Somdej :D
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Keep Aj Pleng amulets for many years and this is the first time I heard of AJ Pleng KP 59-ton testing mould lol
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Currently I wear many amulets,such as:
- Ac Pleng's 59 Ton Khun Paen (testing mould)
- Ac Pleng's Inn Khoo in Metta wax (carry in trousers pocket)
- LP Bann's tiger amulet (2 of them)
- Ac Pleng's HPY
- Ajaan Lee's Bodhi leaf amulet, Ajaan Tim's 2506 committee batch LP Thuad and LP Ngern (by LP Ngern)
- Lek Nam Phi meedmor
- LP Boonler Pra Kan (divine sword)
- La Salah wood (I forgot the name)
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Suai mak, very nice 👍
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I'm currently wearing LP Maha Sila, Phra Ajahn Tom Paphassaro, and Kruba Kiattiyot amulets for this year. They’re all gaining popularity right now, and I feel like their energy is really resonating with the trends. ;D
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Im wearing this Phra Pidta
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2024 and no amulets.
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Stupa Amulet. A lot of good encounters by others who put on this pendant. As for myself, I put it on for years, nothing spectacular to mention, which to me, a peaceful life is good enough.
Amulet is by 会深法师
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Brings back memories.
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Simple Takrut
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You also member last time
Wasei, all Wat Paknam kaki
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Wasei, all Wat Paknam kaki
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WPN gang 8)
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WPM R4
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Takrut Gao Gum of Kruba Wang
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What amulets are you wearing?